There is a Zen koan that asks who were you before your grandparents and the pathway to understanding this koan comes from the inside out, what I am suggesting here is a partial understanding of this koan from the outside in.
The dynamic complexity within which the iState of the present arises in a capable human Me~Mind living one time forward lifetime can be viewed as arising within a cohesion born of chaos mothered into complexity managed using the complicated and resonent in the clear core willing to know now iState, made possible by the use of EmptiSelf conception.
The simplist iState arises in will charged reference to the present, including indifference.